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. >> ford is yr we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of friends that clinton's former chief of staff. since then there has been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to a slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. gerri: earlier i asked republican senator richard shelby of alabama for his take on the comments from boehner. >> i believe that saker boehner is on the right track. the president has not come uptown now, been deeply involved, that we know about , in any of these offers are counteroffers. campaigning to meet.been but he has to get involved if he wants to avoid the fiscal cliff. i think that the speaker has indicated that h will try to engage in, try to meet him and try to avoid the fiscal cleft that the presiient is going to continue to say it is my way or the highway, thats another game. gerri: it is. harry reid today saying that the game isat chess game, and the republicans are the jets. here is harry reid. >> he has a problem. he has three quarterbacks. he cannot dec
. >> ford is yr we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of friends that clinton's former chief of staff. since then there has been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to a slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. gerri: earlier i asked republican senator richard shelby of alabama for his take on the comments from boehner. >> i believe that saker boehner is on the right...
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that is her husband, bill clinton. and i am on the side that says i don't even think she wants to do much cells after secretary of state. she has been around for awhile, taken a lot of heat. i thiik that she probably might want to just enjoy her life. >> for four years and then run. >> i took the 42nd street exit ramp and there was a huge pot hole. the first name that came to mind was not made clinton should fix this. of the shoe want to deal with all the municipal issues. melissa: moving on to something that i would love to happen. in eighth grade girls petitioning has brought to market easy bake ovens for boys. her petition has more than 24,000 signatures. she says her four year-old brother likes to cook. all the kids do. a packaging and promotions make it seem like cooking is only for girls. she wants her brother to know that is not wrong for him to want to be a chef. they're missing out.ainer. >> it's a great idea. absolutely. that's all i love habakkuk. that's why i'm happily married. but the reality is, gordon ra
that is her husband, bill clinton. and i am on the side that says i don't even think she wants to do much cells after secretary of state. she has been around for awhile, taken a lot of heat. i thiik that she probably might want to just enjoy her life. >> for four years and then run. >> i took the 42nd street exit ramp and there was a huge pot hole. the first name that came to mind was not made clinton should fix this. of the shoe want to deal with all the municipal issues. melissa:...
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president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates. he wants to raise much more revenue from high earners than the clinton era tax code would have raised. and president clinton also dramatically lowered capital gains taxes, and that generally benefited high-earners. so a lot of folks believe that's something that balanced out against the increases on ordinary income. so, you know, that's something that arguably contributed to that surge in technology stocks and much else that created surpluses in the latter half of the clinton presidency. it's a more complicated picture. definitely there are folks who want tax increases but let's not gloss over president obama is talking about way higher taxes than we saw during the clinton era on the high earners. >> that's true. all right. want to talk about a party going on tonight. james, pretty good. there is a party going on, jack kemp foundation is having a party and marco rubio is speaking. paul ryan is speaking. they both want to have complete makeovers. you know -- marco rubio doesn't want to
president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates. he wants to raise much more revenue from high earners than the clinton era tax code would have raised. and president clinton also dramatically lowered capital gains taxes, and that generally benefited high-earners. so a lot of folks believe that's something that balanced out against the increases on ordinary income. so, you know, that's something that arguably contributed to that surge in technology stocks and much else that...
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the latest abc news/"washington post" poll shows 57% would vote for clinton in a 2016 presidential bid. >>> turning now to news overseas. all eyes are on two tense situations developing by the hour that could have serious implications for the united states. in syria, with the assad regime growing increasingly desperate, intelligence reports indicate that a chemical attack against his own people could be imminent. even russia, syria's most powerful ally, is alarmed. their foreign minister met yesterday with secretary clinton, discussing the possibility of a syria without assad in power. this morning, rebels have declared damascus's airport a military target, warning civilians and airlines not to approach it. >>> and in egypt, tanks and barbed wire barricades returned to the streets of cairo as deadly protests raged outside the presidential palace. egyptian president mohamed morsi is calling for a national dialogue but is resolute about his controversial constitution. nbc's ayman mohyeldin is joining us live from cairo monitoring the situation. let's start with egypt. how much more troub
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secretary of state hillary clinton says that the u.s. stands by the syrian people and not president assad. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process result in a unified democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. the future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> meanwhile, senator john mccain has said that the u.s. needs to take action. >> we do know absolutely that these weapons have been readied for use by bashar assad's aircraft. we urge the president of the united states to make whatever military preparations are necessary. >> joining me now, joel ruben. thank you for joining me. have they already crossed the red line that the president put out for intervention? should the u.s. intervene, as senator mccain is asking for? >> the situation in syria is something we've never seen before. we have a country collapsing and this country has significant weapons of mass destruction. syria has not signed a chemical weapons convention. they have not, however, moved to use thes
secretary of state hillary clinton says that the u.s. stands by the syrian people and not president assad. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process result in a unified democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. the future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> meanwhile, senator john mccain has said that the u.s. needs to take action. >> we do know absolutely that these weapons have been readied for use by...
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he increased the income tax by 10%, but the huge surge in revenues under clinton came through the capital gains tax cut, not from the income-tax increase. lou: you and i have done what the republicans, perhaps too often. we talk about the economics of it, the theory of it, if you will, the extraction of it, but but the reality is the repuican party has not come up with a rejoinder, a response to a, if ou will, a socialist redistributionist president who right now claims the field is on because there is no other standard flng over that field. there is a speaker of the house to is simply saying, this is not right. you know, we are not at the table and complainingbut not, not engaging. >> i think we have got to engage the argument. we cannot win the argument while acknowledging that an increase in tax rates would increase revenues and all. it will just today the top 1 percent are payi about 40 percent of the income tax. the top 25 percent are paying 87% of the income tax. it does not get any better than that. this is under the bush tax rates. you eliminate those tax rates and you will get le
he increased the income tax by 10%, but the huge surge in revenues under clinton came through the capital gains tax cut, not from the income-tax increase. lou: you and i have done what the republicans, perhaps too often. we talk about the economics of it, the theory of it, if you will, the extraction of it, but but the reality is the repuican party has not come up with a rejoinder, a response to a, if ou will, a socialist redistributionist president who right now claims the field is on because...
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. >> steve: hillary clinton. >> we followed the president and president bush into war and now i think this president is being understandably cautious. listen, because saddam hussein had used sarin gas on his own people in 1988, it was not a giant leap to assume that he was going to use them on us or on his neighbors. >> brian: in the aftermath of the war, it was found there after the persian gulf war. >> well, i don't remember a lot of sarin gas being found. some was indeed. i guess. i have a dim recollection of that. it certainly wasn't a big item. but listen, we know now, intelligence tells us now that bashar assad in syria has sarin gas and he is partially loaded them on his fighter bombers that now pretty well established. it's not just fox news reporting it and nbc news reporting it. it's intelligence sources in washington and elsewhere abroad. now it is pretty clear that they have taken at least the preliminary steps. however, and here is where i differ from the vice president, i believe that the secretary of state, hillary clinton, and the president of the united states has mad
. >> steve: hillary clinton. >> we followed the president and president bush into war and now i think this president is being understandably cautious. listen, because saddam hussein had used sarin gas on his own people in 1988, it was not a giant leap to assume that he was going to use them on us or on his neighbors. >> brian: in the aftermath of the war, it was found there after the persian gulf war. >> well, i don't remember a lot of sarin gas being found. some was...
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even bill clinton agrees. here's what he said at a conference i saw him at back in may. >> i think you could tax me at 100% and you wouldn't balance the budget. we're all going to have to contribute to this and if middle class people's wages were going up again and we had some growth in the economy, i don't think they would object to going back to the tax rates. >> with no breakthrough today, fiscal cliff negotiations, could this be a starting pot? "outfront" republican congressman james lankford of oklahoma, incoming chairman of the republican policy committee, the fifth ranking position in the house gop leadership. appreciate you're taking the time. what about this idea of racinin taxes on everyone? the math works much better. >> i heard your lead in when you said this is a new idea. actually, it's not a new idea, there are several democrats who have floated that for a while. the code word is we want to go back to the clinton tax rates and talk about the clinton economy that we had a much more vigorous econo
even bill clinton agrees. here's what he said at a conference i saw him at back in may. >> i think you could tax me at 100% and you wouldn't balance the budget. we're all going to have to contribute to this and if middle class people's wages were going up again and we had some growth in the economy, i don't think they would object to going back to the tax rates. >> with no breakthrough today, fiscal cliff negotiations, could this be a starting pot? "outfront" republican...
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the president's been very careful not to say we have to go up to the clinton-era 39.6%. he hasn't used that number. and so he's -- you know -- >> right now it's 35%. >> right now it's 35%. so if you look in the middle, okay, 37% is a real possibility. but here's the caveat. john boehner, the house speaker, cannot take a rate increase to his caucus unless it is accompanied by some signal of real entitlement cuts. something that they do now and give a down payment on for the future. i don't think you get -- could get rates through unless the president gave a little bit. and if you look at the document from the grand bargain back in july of 2011, the president was willing to give on that. so we'll have to see if they can get back to that. but again, has to be one significant item that they know they'll be able to build upon in the future. an item from both sides. >> neither side's going to be thrilled. but they've got to compromise. >> that's the way life usually works, doesn't it? >> certainly does. thank you. >>> meanwhile, huge announcement today on capitol hill. the con
the president's been very careful not to say we have to go up to the clinton-era 39.6%. he hasn't used that number. and so he's -- you know -- >> right now it's 35%. >> right now it's 35%. so if you look in the middle, okay, 37% is a real possibility. but here's the caveat. john boehner, the house speaker, cannot take a rate increase to his caucus unless it is accompanied by some signal of real entitlement cuts. something that they do now and give a down payment on for the future. i...
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federal law signed into law by president clinton in 1996. it says if a person is legally married in a state, the federal government can't recognize those marriages. that's where you talked about federal benefits heterosexual couples get and same sex couples do not. the prop 8 thing is bigger. while potentially it's confined to the state of california only, the question it out there having given the right to gay marriage could the state then take it away through proposition 8 passed by a majority of the vote nurse 2008. having taken that case, the court could get to the bedrock issue. can any state refuse to let same sex couples get married under the federal constitution. it could potentially be narrow or very far. >> pete, as i understand it, let me ask you. this one of these things, maybe the driving one, is defense of marriage act was about paying the estate act. where one of the two people said she didn't have to pay the estate tax because a married couple wouldn't have to. >> reporter: this is a case from new york. a woman named edie win
federal law signed into law by president clinton in 1996. it says if a person is legally married in a state, the federal government can't recognize those marriages. that's where you talked about federal benefits heterosexual couples get and same sex couples do not. the prop 8 thing is bigger. while potentially it's confined to the state of california only, the question it out there having given the right to gay marriage could the state then take it away through proposition 8 passed by a...
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according to "the new york times," blook called clinton to encourage her to run for mayor in 2013. the call reportedly took place months ago and hillary said thanks but no thanks. this comes as a recent headline from the new yorker editor david riddick declared hillary is running. he reads that conclusion after witnessing secretary clinton as a main speaker at a conference in washington this weekend where he says a slickly produced film on her political career ran like an international endorsement four years in advance of the iowa caucus. >> okay. new jersey governor chris christie is asking for 100% reimbursement from the federal government for the costs of emergency response the state faced in the wake of hurricane sandy. christie said in a letter to fema that the economic damage in his state could top $40 billion. he also plans to couple to washington to press his case later this week. both christie and new york governor andrew cuomo are asking for full compensation for their state's efforts. the white house is also expected to ask for more money. >>> and just one month after th
according to "the new york times," blook called clinton to encourage her to run for mayor in 2013. the call reportedly took place months ago and hillary said thanks but no thanks. this comes as a recent headline from the new yorker editor david riddick declared hillary is running. he reads that conclusion after witnessing secretary clinton as a main speaker at a conference in washington this weekend where he says a slickly produced film on her political career ran like an...
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mayor clinton. >> mayor chelsey clinton. >> jennifer: you think hillary clinton would be interested in being mayor? >> no, as great as new york is, i think it would feel like a demotioning to from traveling the world as secretary of state to dining the fine restaurant of new york. i think they'll vote in quinn. >> jennifer: karl, let me follow up with you. there is a new york democrat nate shinigoa who lost his race, but he received a letter from hillary clinton, and he posted it on his facebook. and she's in fact in that letter encouraging him to keep on fighting in the political website, saying that is new for clinton. do you think she's building support for a presidential campaign? >> i don't think she's building support to go on a nice long vacation. >> jennifer: i totally agree. >> which is probably what she's going to do, take a break while her team puts everything together. it's smart politics congratulating, and offering condolences to anyone who lost. i think it's pretty normal. i think it's usual that a candidate would put it up for the world to see but i think it's a smart t
mayor clinton. >> mayor chelsey clinton. >> jennifer: you think hillary clinton would be interested in being mayor? >> no, as great as new york is, i think it would feel like a demotioning to from traveling the world as secretary of state to dining the fine restaurant of new york. i think they'll vote in quinn. >> jennifer: karl, let me follow up with you. there is a new york democrat nate shinigoa who lost his race, but he received a letter from hillary clinton, and he...
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. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professional. the other is a wild swinger, you don't know what he's going to do, overweight, the whole thing. wow, what an election. thank you, michael steele. happy weekend. joy reid, relax this weekend. speaking of chris christie he gets what he's wanting his whole life. this guy is a regular guy in some ways. that's ahead on "hardball," the place for politics. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less? testing hot tar... great businesses deserve great rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? here's your invoice. i tell them dentures are very different to real teeth. they're abo
. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professional. the other is a wild swinger, you don't know what he's going to do, overweight, the whole thing. wow, what an election. thank you, michael steele. happy weekend. joy reid, relax this weekend. speaking of chris christie he gets what he's wanting his whole life. this guy is a regular guy in some ways. that's ahead on "hardball," the place for...
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just let the top rates go back to clinton era levels. i don't like it. you don't like it. but it beats the budget terry oops you are going through right now to raise the same amount of dough. limiting the writeoffs and opening the can of worms is not worth it. less hassle and less revenue overall. if you raise the rates now and save the big foit for a -- the big fight for a conflict. and quit saying entitlements are off the table. curbing the growth is not the same as throwing granny off the cliff. get off your high horse and talking points and get this. republicans just gave you revenues. return the offer. give them a spending road map. if they are going to raise the top rate close to 5% i say you slice the growth in entitlement spending by 2% now and more later. both parties agree to keep growth in all government spending. all of it to no more than 2% a year half the rate at which it is spiraling out of control. super hero fix six, slowly rage the eligibility from 65 to 67 exempting those who are 58 or older now to allow for this adjustment to be slowly worked in. nancy
just let the top rates go back to clinton era levels. i don't like it. you don't like it. but it beats the budget terry oops you are going through right now to raise the same amount of dough. limiting the writeoffs and opening the can of worms is not worth it. less hassle and less revenue overall. if you raise the rates now and save the big foit for a -- the big fight for a conflict. and quit saying entitlements are off the table. curbing the growth is not the same as throwing granny off the...
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clinton levels of spending. when you take that into account it doesn't actually end up closing yo gap when it comes to something which some other clinton alumni pointed out this week is a $86 trillion in unfunded liabilities for entitlements. >> that number is essentially fake. >> a lot of times when we're discussing this stuff, it is fake because government refuses to put it on the books because they don't want to acknowledge it exists. >> th not it. >> my point being i don't want to only talk about simplifying when we're not actually closing the gap. i don't want to only talk about the fiscal cliff when nothing we're doing is coming close to deal with these issues. melissa: we talk about how hard it is to simplify the tax code. our guest before you guys said the same thing. it could be really simple. we could put out three rates for people with absolutely no deductions exceptions. if you're in this group you pay 35% or whatever. make up your number. >> right. melissa: if you're in this group pay 30, and this g
clinton levels of spending. when you take that into account it doesn't actually end up closing yo gap when it comes to something which some other clinton alumni pointed out this week is a $86 trillion in unfunded liabilities for entitlements. >> that number is essentially fake. >> a lot of times when we're discussing this stuff, it is fake because government refuses to put it on the books because they don't want to acknowledge it exists. >> th not it. >> my point being i...
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. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professional. the other is a wild swinger, you don't know what he's going to do, overweight, the whole thing. wow, what an election. thank you, michael steele. happy weekend. joy reid, relax this weekend. >>> speaking of chris christie, he gets what he's wanting his whole life. this guy is a regular guy in some ways. that's ahead on "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the preventive benefits you get after the health care law. ♪ open enrollment ends december 7th. so now's the time. visit medicare.gov or call 1-800-medicare. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it rais
. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professional. the other is a wild swinger, you don't know what he's going to do, overweight, the whole thing. wow, what an election. thank you, michael steele. happy weekend. joy reid, relax this weekend. >>> speaking of chris christie, he gets what he's wanting his whole life. this guy is a regular guy in some ways. that's ahead on "hardball," the...
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you know the clintons, is there doubt or no doubt she's running for president? >> there's not in my mind much doubt. zero doubt in bill clinton's mind as to what he wants. he desperately wants her to do it. chris: you notice what he did in pennsylvania this time, knocked off people that opposed her in the past and helped people that have been with her. >> he is organizing his public life around keeping options open for her. hillary clinton would say, look, i'm exhausted, give me a year to get my life back in order to think about it but i think at every turn in hillary clinton's public life when she's had an option to do something more ambitious, she's chosen that option so to my mind there's not a lot of doubt. chris: let me ask you about the think we alle i agree she'll be encouraged to run. seems to me that other people like vice president biden and governor of new york, they have to get going and make their move. the secretary of state gets to relax, get her head clear, read a novel or two, think about something other than work. how long does she have? >> lin
you know the clintons, is there doubt or no doubt she's running for president? >> there's not in my mind much doubt. zero doubt in bill clinton's mind as to what he wants. he desperately wants her to do it. chris: you notice what he did in pennsylvania this time, knocked off people that opposed her in the past and helped people that have been with her. >> he is organizing his public life around keeping options open for her. hillary clinton would say, look, i'm exhausted, give me a...
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the hillary clinton for press pass. perhaps they could reissue these if she decides to run again in 2016. >> she was the favorite then, she lost out to a relative i unknown junior senator from illinois. we'll see what happens the next time around. >> if she runs. >> that shows you how unpredictable these things could be. even though she would be the favorite. you never know what might happen. >> i think if she writes a book, does a few speeches, enjoys herself a little bit, i think she will say i'd like to be the first woman president. >>> security is being tightened at the hospital where katherine is being treated for acute morning sickness after her privacy was invaded by a prank call from australia. i'm joined now by cnn's royal correspondent max foster. >> it's extraordinary. it's very simple. a couple radio presenters from australia, jokers on a comedy show, rang up the hospital, pretended to be the queen and prince charles and asked to be put through to the ward. just have a listen to the accents here, they're not
the hillary clinton for press pass. perhaps they could reissue these if she decides to run again in 2016. >> she was the favorite then, she lost out to a relative i unknown junior senator from illinois. we'll see what happens the next time around. >> if she runs. >> that shows you how unpredictable these things could be. even though she would be the favorite. you never know what might happen. >> i think if she writes a book, does a few speeches, enjoys herself a little...
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would you accept returning to the clinton rate of 39.6%? or, would you accept something, perhaps, a mid point, 37% or starting with people who make $500,000, rather than 250? >> well, chris, there is a growing group of folks, that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that is it. the presidency and the senate, is in the democrats' hands, and a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i actually think it has merit where you go ahead and give the president the 2% increase, that he is talking about, rate increase on the top 2% and all of a sudden the shift goes back to entitlements, and all of a sudden once you give him the right on the top 2%, it is actually much lesser tax increase than what he has been talking about, the focus then shifts to entitlements and maybe it puts us in a place where we actually can do something that really saves the nation, so, there is a growing body, i actually am beginning to believe that is the best rout
would you accept returning to the clinton rate of 39.6%? or, would you accept something, perhaps, a mid point, 37% or starting with people who make $500,000, rather than 250? >> well, chris, there is a growing group of folks, that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that is it. the presidency and the senate, is in the democrats' hands, and a lot of people are putting forth a theory...
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>> secretary clinton met with the foreign minister of russia a couple of days ago. obviously russia has backed another loser, its propensity in these things. i think they even see this now. probably the best-case scenario is there's some sort of soft landing where assad is offered an exile deal, gets out of the picture. and then you start the retribution massacres and it could turn into something extremely ugly. the hope is russia will get on board and be constructive. the foreign minister said good things but we'll see what russia does. >> what does an intervention looks like? >> if chemical weapons are used, i think it looks a lot like the air strikes in libya. you have to destroy some of those major stockpiles of chemical weapons. if they start to lose control and there are fores that hezbollah might get ahold of them, you might see some special forces on the ground. the idea of chemical weapons, especially for close allies like israel getting into the hands of hezbollah is really frightening to them and us. short of military action, we're going to recognize the
>> secretary clinton met with the foreign minister of russia a couple of days ago. obviously russia has backed another loser, its propensity in these things. i think they even see this now. probably the best-case scenario is there's some sort of soft landing where assad is offered an exile deal, gets out of the picture. and then you start the retribution massacres and it could turn into something extremely ugly. the hope is russia will get on board and be constructive. the foreign...
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we need to go back to the clinton era rates for the most well off americans. it's not going to kill us. the line between freedom and tyranny is not the 35 we pay now and the 39 that the rich will pay as we did when america was a communist paradise. it's just silly now. you've got to be for a tax rate increase or we will go over this fiscal cliff. >> no, you don't. you could raise from a carbon tax of $20 a ton, which will deal with, we are having the biggest record carbon levels. you could raise -- at 4% a year over the next ten year, twice as much as you could from allowing the bush tax rates to lapse. why the income tax system is overburdened in the united states. we use it too much. we should be looking at other taxes. we can't do it in 29 days. why are we doing it in 29 days? >> but the president ran on raises taxes, right? if you look at the polls. 60% of people support raising taxes on people who make over $250,000 a year. how much of a problem is it, david, if the republicans you know, tom coburn said he does not want to raise that tax number. >> the pr
we need to go back to the clinton era rates for the most well off americans. it's not going to kill us. the line between freedom and tyranny is not the 35 we pay now and the 39 that the rich will pay as we did when america was a communist paradise. it's just silly now. you've got to be for a tax rate increase or we will go over this fiscal cliff. >> no, you don't. you could raise from a carbon tax of $20 a ton, which will deal with, we are having the biggest record carbon levels. you...
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i mean, if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton, supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular president barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. and it's part of this cultural thing with our consultants. you start out thinking giving away 47% of the country, by the way, which included retirees, veterans. you know, it was an absurdity. and i think this is much more than mitt romney. we didn't blow it because of mitt romney. we blew it because of a party which has refused to engage the reality of american life and refused to take -- to think through what the average american needs for a better future. >> but recall what you said about 1964. in december 1964, lyndon johnson was re-elected. goldwater was finished. it was the end of the republican party. and at the end, the republicans nominated a man named richard nixon. and he became president. unthinkable. >> so you can have a tcampaign between hillary clinton and jeb bush, representing 36 years of bushes on n
i mean, if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton, supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular president barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. and it's part of this cultural thing with our consultants. you start out thinking giving away 47% of the country, by the way, which included retirees, veterans. you know, it was an absurdity. and i think this is much...
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. >> james, you are super, but if you give the democrats the great clinton tax rates you have to get the spending rate to g.d.p. at the same time. >> you are right. we will see. >> ruth from tell. >> i am in agreement with the fiscal cliff, you are my hero. we. >> robert, e-mail, perfect solution, again you nailed it, neil. >> jay from arizona, to the super hero i am glad someone is coming to the aid of the country. if you want do be a super hero you may want to turn your tall ends to educate the people on economics of country. >> that is what i do as a mortal on this follow show and on fox business network each day, jay every day, without a super her overoutfit. >> and i often watch with my dad and i think you are funny but i wonder, was he an odd kid? you seem like you would have done some odd things? >> well, if you call always worrying about the planet trying to say that the odds, well, guilty. >> kathy from hotmail, i love you, not in a romantic we because you saw it as it is. why not run for budget? i was too busy being a super hero, leaving mere mortals to lead. >> from north
. >> james, you are super, but if you give the democrats the great clinton tax rates you have to get the spending rate to g.d.p. at the same time. >> you are right. we will see. >> ruth from tell. >> i am in agreement with the fiscal cliff, you are my hero. we. >> robert, e-mail, perfect solution, again you nailed it, neil. >> jay from arizona, to the super hero i am glad someone is coming to the aid of the country. if you want do be a super hero you may want...
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what was so bad about the 39.6% highest rate under bill clinton? the economy was pretty good under bill clinton and that grumbling from democrats, i think, will be helpful to, ironically, republicans because a lot of republicans on the right are going to be saying to boehner, we had pledged to grover norquist no tax increase at all and here you are, agreeing to what is effectively, a tax increase. and i think that both sides are going to have to give a little bit of something. and that 37% may be the golden median. >> doug, let's talk about the unemployment report that came out. it shows 7.7% unemployment. you know, i know a lot of democrats want to say, oh, it's dropping, but it seems to me for months and months and months, the unemployment numbers have just remained awful. they move a little up and down, but they're just a mess. 12 million people unemployed. it seems to me that that could cut either way. republicans could still lean on that and say, you may be winning the pr war on this thing right now. but don't forget, you've got a big problem
what was so bad about the 39.6% highest rate under bill clinton? the economy was pretty good under bill clinton and that grumbling from democrats, i think, will be helpful to, ironically, republicans because a lot of republicans on the right are going to be saying to boehner, we had pledged to grover norquist no tax increase at all and here you are, agreeing to what is effectively, a tax increase. and i think that both sides are going to have to give a little bit of something. and that 37% may...
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then they create this this thing it was because bowles was never elected to anything he was just a clinton staffer fact he got knocked down twice and twice he was defeated i don't know why these guys represent anybody but anyhow they said panetta burns because leon panetta used to be a clinton staffer and burns was a republican senator westerners a republican senator so they said well what do you think of the panetta burns strategy twenty five percent of americans support that thirty nine percent support simpson bowles doesn't this tell us something about the whole lane and americans are and how they want to agree with that nice fellow who's asking the question you think you think that was i want to look smart i think if the issue is that they want to look smart they want to look like they're in the know yes i can remember going there is nothing about this a lot of people are busy raising kids watching t.v. working and they want to participate in politics and they go no i can't agree with you and as a result of thirty five years or greater nomics both people the family are working they're
then they create this this thing it was because bowles was never elected to anything he was just a clinton staffer fact he got knocked down twice and twice he was defeated i don't know why these guys represent anybody but anyhow they said panetta burns because leon panetta used to be a clinton staffer and burns was a republican senator westerners a republican senator so they said well what do you think of the panetta burns strategy twenty five percent of americans support that thirty nine...
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four days ago we offered a serious proceed proceeds albased on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counter offer from the white house. instead reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending the president wants to raise tax rates. even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion-dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. listen, washington has got a spending problem not a revenue problem. if the president doesn't agree with our proposal i believe that he's got an obligation to families and small businesses to offer a plan of his own, a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. we are ready and eager to talk to the president about such a plan. >> you did speak with the president earlier this week, can you characterize that call? did he have any kind of counter offer? also, we understand that he is making clear that it's got to be
four days ago we offered a serious proceed proceeds albased on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counter offer from the white house. instead reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending the president wants to raise tax rates. even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we...
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barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying, none of this would be happening if that idealistic barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this dinner and they were -- these were speeches where they're trying to define themselves as who they are. both probably going to run in 2016. how would a rubio/ryan stack up against a hillary clinton? in a sense it sort of feels like 2008 reversed, right, except for experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and the youth and this sort of idealism might perhaps come from a rubio or ryan on the republican side? >> well, if i look at that poll you were referring to, hillary clinton is the overwhelming favorite among young people, especially you
barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying, none of this would be happening if that idealistic barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this...
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the military is prepared to use poisen gas bombs, secretary of hillary clinton flew to dublin to hold a meetg with her russian counter part and u.n. enjoy to syria meeting to discuss how they would end the now 21-month long conflict in syria and how to move assad from power. and there's no sign they had to reverse the support, and toda a senior lawmaker says the syria government is now incapable of functioning properly. just before the meeting with the russian foreign minister, secretary clinton insisted that the united states and russia share common goals in the region. >> trying hard to work hard with russia to stop the bloodshed in syria and begin a political transition to a post asad future the pressure against the regime in and aroundamascus seems to be increasing. lou: at home, leon pa net fa issuing the -- panetta issuinghe sharpest warning yet. >> the president of t united states made it clear there will be consequences. there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using chemical weapons on their own people. lou: neither the white house or pentago
the military is prepared to use poisen gas bombs, secretary of hillary clinton flew to dublin to hold a meetg with her russian counter part and u.n. enjoy to syria meeting to discuss how they would end the now 21-month long conflict in syria and how to move assad from power. and there's no sign they had to reverse the support, and toda a senior lawmaker says the syria government is now incapable of functioning properly. just before the meeting with the russian foreign minister, secretary...